Do I need a lawyer for a speeding ticket in North Carolina?

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What should I do after I receive a speeding ticket in North Carolina?

Do not pay your speeding ticket without calling an attorney. Contact a Raleigh Speeding Ticket Lawyer for more information. Most local attorneys offer free consultations. Paying your ticket may lead to a suspension of your driving privileges and could cause your insurance to go through the roof.

Can I represent myself in traffic court?

Yes but it’s generally a really bad idea. An experienced attorney will review your DMV record to handle your case in the best way possible. The goal for most clients is a reduction to the non-moving violation on improper equipment and also to receive zero insurance points. If you mishandle your ticket you may find that your license is suspended or you will receive a steep hike in your insurance premiums. Our rates start at $98 and we are generally able to go to court on your behalf.

Does the officer have to prove his/her radar was working properly?

No. The radar simply corroborates the officer’s visual estimate of your rate of speed. No radar reading is required to convict you of speeding. The officer simply needs to state that based on his/her training that your estimated speed was 75 in a 55 to get a conviction. That’s not easy to beat at trial.

Can the District Attorney in Traffic Court Reduce my ticket?

They can dismiss, reduce or amend your ticket to another charge (like Improper Equipment). Then only a judge can give you a PJC. An experience speeding ticket attorney will know what type of reduction or amended charge is best for you.

How much are the court costs and fines for most speeding tickets?

The costs generally range and no two cases are alike. For a reduction to improper equipment you’re probably looking at $263 for Wake County. The in Wake County a speeding ticket would probably have court costs and fines of only $188 or $198. While Improper Equipment is higher in terms of costs it’s much better because it’s a non-moving violation and you don’t have to worry about the possibility of losing your safe driver discount for some carries.

Wake County Speeding Ticket Lawyer/Chatham County Traffic Ticket Attorney

If you received a speeding ticket in Wake County or Chatham County, North Carolina please contact The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel, PLLC for a free consultation. You can reach us at 919-585-1486. Our office is located in Cary, NC.

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

What To Do If you Get a Speeding Ticket over the Holiday Season

Dashing down the road
In a bright red Cabriolet
O'er the traffic we go
Laughing all the way
Police sirens start to ring
Flashing blue lights bright
It's no fun when the officer sings
"I am writing you a ticket tonight"....

Did you or someone you know receive a traffic citation while rushing around town to pick up last minute presents? Our main advice is DO NOT pay traffic tickets without speaking to a lawyer first. For many those traffic citations may be eligible for a reduction to the non-moving violation of "Improper Equipment." Many other possible reductions can reduce or eliminate DMV and insurance points.  The video above explains the process for dealing with speeding tickets in the Raleigh area.

Call The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel, PLLC to discuss your options at 919-585-1486 and stay safe during this chilly Holiday Season. Our office is conveniently located in Cary, NC near Interstate 40 and Harrison Avenue. 

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

What to Do if You Have Received Your First Traffic Ticket in North Carolina

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If you have received your first traffic ticket ever in North Carolina, don’t panic – getting pulled over happens to the best of us. Many traffic tickets can be taken care of quickly by an attorney without you ever having to appear in court.

When you were pulled over and issued a traffic citation, the officer may have told you when you need to appear in court. If he did not, you can find this date on the ticket. You or your attorney MUST appear for this court date. On this court date, you or your attorney will speak with the assistant district attorney about your options. You may have the option to have the charges reduced or even dismissed, but often you must know what to ask for.

Here, it may be much easier to let an attorney do this for you. Attorneys Wiley Nickel and Kristi Haddock can go to your court date for you so you don’t have to miss work and worry about parking in downtown Raleigh. Call The Law Office of Wiley Nickel at (919) 585-1486 to speak to an attorney about how we can help you get the best result. This could include lower fines, avoiding points on your license, and not having your car insurance rates increase.   

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

Is a Speeding Ticket a Misdemeanor?

The most common traffic violations our firm handles are speeding tickets.  Our clients sometimes worry that a speeding ticket on their driving record will negatively affect them on their criminal record. This is not true. In North Carolina you are unable to expunge tickets from your driving record, however, a simple ticket under 20mph over the speed limit is not something to be afraid to have on your record. There are a few ways that an attorney can resolve your ticket to keep your ticket from affecting you. Our clients are almost always most interested in keeping points off of their license and insurance policy and our office can explain and offer the best outcomes for your unique situation.

As far as speeding is concerned, any driving that is performed above the posted speed limit can result in a speeding ticket being issued. Most of these tickets are infractions.  However, it is a Class 3 Misdemeanor to operate a motor vehicle either greater than 15 above the speed limit or greater than 80 miles per hour. You need an attorney to help you through this process and keep points off your insurance and/or your driver’s license.

A conviction for a speeding ticket can affect both your insurance and your license. If you want to obtain the best result possible then give us a call today. We practice in Wake County, where in the last 6 months it is possible to have certain moving violations reduced to the non-moving violation of “improper equipment.” Every situation is unique, in order for us to give you personalized information on your specific case, please call The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel at (919) 585-1486 for a free consultation.

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

How to Fight a Speeding Ticket in Raleigh, NC

Do you have a Wake County, NC speeding ticket? Do you think you have grounds to fight this ticket? Watch this video for more information on the process.

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

Do Not Pay Your NC Speeding Tickets by Mail Without Talking to a Lawyer First!

Have you gotten a speeding ticket in Wake County, North Carolina? You should consult with a Raleigh Traffic Ticket Lawyer before deciding to pay your ticket by mail or online.

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

Required Driving Courses for Traffic Tickets in Wake County

In Wake County, you will be required to take 4 hour defensive driving course if you are between the ages of 16 and 21 and you receive a traffic ticket for:

Speeding

NC Traffic Law Violations

Impaired and Distracted Driving

If you are a repeat offender, a driver under the age of 21 who received your second moving violation OR you have been in an automobile accident, you will be required to complete a 4 hour behind the wheel driving course.

This course will involve both in class and hands-on coursework concluding with a test and driver assessment.

The Alive at 25 – 4 Hour Driving Course and Repeat Offender – 4 Hour with Behind the wheel Course are both held at:

3739 National Drive

Cumberland Building, Suite 125

Raleigh, NC 27612

(near Crabtree Valley Mall)

Pre-registration is required, please call 919-719-9800 for registration details and directions to the classroom.

Due to the Wake County District Attorney’s Office strict policies surrounding traffic violations, it’s important to find a lawyer familiar with the local rules, prosecutors, and judges.  If you have a speeding ticket or other traffic violation in Wake County, call The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel at 919-585-1486 for a free consultation with one of our experienced Wake County speeding ticket lawyers.

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

Speeding Ticket Basics: What You Need to Know to Keep Your Car Insurance Rates Low!

The most important goal for most of the clients we work with is keeping their car insurance low.  Did you know that if you get a speeding ticket in Wake County you may also get anywhere from 1-4 insurance points? Just one point can cause your car insurance premiums to go up by as much as 30% a year. With four points, you’re looking at as much as 80%! At The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel, our goal is to keep North Carolina insurance points off of your insurance to save you money.

If you’ve gotten a speeding ticket in North Carolina, there are two important policies you should know about:

1.      PJCs: If a judge grants you a PJC, it could mean no insurance points and no DMV points on your record. The traffic attorneys at The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel can help you determine if you are eligible or need to use a PJC for your speeding ticket.

2.      Improper Equipment Reductions: Just recently, Wake County has allowed certain speeding tickets to be reduced to improper equipment. Because ‘improper equipment’ is considered a non-moving violation, no DMV points or insurance points are assessed. 

Each case is unique, if you have received a speeding ticket in Wake County, call The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel at (919) 585-1486 for a free consultation. One of our experienced Raleigh speeding ticket lawyers can help determine the best possible outcome for your unique situation. It is likely that we can appear on your behalf and save you the time and costs of going to court. 

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.

New Policy for Improper Equipment Reductions in Wake County North Carolina

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Effective immediately, the Wake County District Attorney’s Office will implement a policy allowing certain North Carolina speed-related charges to be disposed of by a plea of responsible to improper equipment.  Because improper equipment is considered a non-moving violation, no license or insurance points are assessed against the driver.  This is a very important change as insurance points will lead to a huge increase in your insurance premiums and DMV points could lead to a suspension of your license.

This is a change that The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel has been requesting for quite a while.  Most of the rest of North Carolina allows for reductions to improper equipment.  The effect of the prior policy was to make driving and insurance costs much higher in the Raleigh than the surrounding areas.  This new policy will have the effect of making driving less costly for Wake County residents.  Effectively it allows safe drivers with that one minor speeding ticket to have a chance to avoid a huge increase in their insurance costs.

In order to qualify for a Wake County improper equipment reduction, you must meet the following criteria:

§  Provide a certified North Carolina driving record showing:

o   No more than 1 other moving violation in the last 3 years

o   No more than 3 moving violations within 10 years

o   No improper equipment reductions within 3 years

§  Charged with speeding 20 mph or less over the posted limit and not in excess of 85 mph

§  Resolve the case by the 3rd setting in the disposition courtroom (Courtroom 101)

§  Pay fines and court costs of more than $263.

§  If under the age of 21, complete a 4 hour driving course at an approved driving school

If you have a speeding ticket in Wake County, call The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel at 919-585-1486 for a free consultation. One of our experienced Raleigh speeding ticket lawyers will discuss whether you’re eligible to have your Wake County speeding ticket reduced to improper equipment (a non-moving violation).  When you’re looking for the best Raleigh speeding ticket lawyer for the job visit our website for more information about how we can help.  It’s likely that we can appear on your behalf and save you the time and costs of going to court. 

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Wiley Nickel

Wiley Nickel lives and works in Cary, North Carolina. In 1998, he graduated from Tulane University with a major in Political Science and a minor in History. After college Wiley went to work for Al Gore and travelled with the Vice President as part of his national advance staff. Following the Gore campaign he earned his law degree from the Pepperdine University School of Law in 2005. While in law school Wiley worked as a law clerk in the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office where he gained valuable criminal trial experience before taking and passing the California bar exam. His first job out of law school was for the Merced County District Attorney’s Office where he worked as a Deputy District Attorney with a focus on prosecuting DWI offenders. Wiley later joined the Law Offices of Joseph Uremovic where he focused on civil litigation and family law. When the opportunity came to join the Obama campaign in 2008 Wiley jumped at the chance. He spent three years travelling with President Obama as a member of his national advance team. In 2011 Wiley left his work for the White House to return to the practice of law. Wiley devotes the majority of his practice to the areas of criminal law, family law, traffic tickets and DMV issues. The Law Offices of Wiley Nickel was started with the goal of providing the best representation possible for all of his clients. Experienced, Compassionate, Aggressive Criminal Defense While defense attorney Wiley Nickel works as the primary attorney for all of his cases, he does have an associate attorney, a team of investigators, forensic consultants, and support staff to call on to help achieve the best possible result in every case. He limits his case load so that he can focus on providing the best possible legal defense to all of his clients. Every case is a top priority and the goal is to have your case dismissed with a focus on being able to expunge your charges at the end of the process. When he is not working, Wiley is an avid family man, distance runner and golfer. He loves North Carolina college sports and is hoping this is the year for Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. Wiley is licensed to practice law in North Carolina and California.